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Gaia Ma'chello
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:45:00 -
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Giving the procurer a battleship size tank will not make it useful with its current pathetic mining ability. For it to be a useful ship it has to be able to out mine the other option with a battleship size tank: A Battleship. Currently a mining Rokh can out mine a Retriever.
CCP: In your minds eye consider a plot where the vertical axis in mining yield, and the horizontal axis is EHP. If you make different fits on different ships you get a bunch of points. But there is an upper limit, a sort of a limiting line that slopes down left to right above which there are no ships. The exhumers should be on that line, the barges below it, and all other ships even lower. |
Gaia Ma'chello
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:05:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Currently a mining Rokh can out mine a Retriever. i'd say that the retriever's much higher cargo capacity makes up for that
Solo, yes. In a group, not so much. But even with a battleship you can fit expanders in the lows, a tank in the mids, and miners in the highs. Less yield, sure. But it would still beat a Procurer. ( I wonder how close you could get to a Retriever, given travel time, both solo mining and without a jet can).
If you are solo mining or fleet mining in high sec and want to deter gankers, the ship to pick should be one of the new barges or exhumers that compromises yield for tank, not a Rokh. |
Gaia Ma'chello
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:12:00 -
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Denidil wrote:Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Giving the procurer a battleship size tank will not make it useful with its current pathetic mining ability.. READ THE ******* DEV BLOG. ffs
The blog gave no numbers as to how much they plan on buffing yield. I'm pointing out it better be a good buff, one that improves the Procurer's ability to mine to above that of a Rokh. |
Gaia Ma'chello
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:18:00 -
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Rek Esket wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:I haven't actually ganked any exhumer yet, but once these changes drop and the carebear glee is high, I may want to fix my sec status and show miners a sweet game called "bumper cars". Are you sure you can bump that Hulk out of Scimi's rep range if Scimi pilot is actively piloting his ship and not on Youtube watching Lady GaGa's videos? And actually do some damage before Concord lands? Richard Desturned wrote:i'd say that the retriever's much higher cargo capacity makes up for that Ever heard of Orca? A mining Rokh fully fit for yield has to do ridiculous things like stagger cycles and empty the cargo bay into a jet can between each to avoid maxing out its cargo space and wasting cycles. No thank you, even if it mined more than a Hulk I'm not dragging minerals into a can every 10-15 seconds.
You do two groups of 4 miners with just a short pause between them. Just after one set cycles, but before the next you transfer ore. Then a few seconds later the other set cycles and you transfer ore. Now you got almost 60 seconds before you got to do it again. (OK, 40 seconds if you got an uber orca pilot. Still more than 15 seconds.) Yes a pain. Being blown up by gankers is also a pain. |
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